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The MoveOn.org Action Forum Sideshow (Archived 9/11 conspiracy theories plus racist and anti-Semitic hate speech)

Tent #1 (hate speech)

Tent #2 (hate speech)

Humor: MoveOn discovers the TRUTH behind 9/11!

MoveOn's anti- Catholic hate ad attacks the Pope. Compare to Thomas Nast's 19th century cartoons.

MoveOn.org Official Bulletin backs Palestinians against Israel: cites Electronic Intifada

MoveOn.org's Judas goats, enablers, and stooges: National Jewish Democratic Council, Jewish Funds for Justice

National Jewish Democratic Council: Anti-Christian and Anti-Semitic Hate Organization

Democrats Embrace Al Sharpton's Racist National Action Network

NEW (August 2007) Anti-Semitic and Anti-Catholic Hate Speech at the Daily Kos

NEW (September 2007) MoveOn smears General Petraeus. How your Senators and Representatives voted on standing behind Petraeus



Blog: MoveOn.org, Please Move On!

Downloadable Word MoveOn.org hate speech documentation (about 650Kb)

The MoveOn.org Action Forum Sideshow, Tent #1
Step right up and see the anti-Semitic freaks and 9/11 conspiracy kooks

This is what MoveOn.org's Eli Pariser told the public, and also Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, on 2 September 2006.

http://www.moveon.org/content/pac/pdfs/statement_090206.pdf [Our comments in brackets]
Statement On ActionForum Comments.
Statement from Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org Political Action
“MoveOn’s ActionForum is an open forum where members of the public and MoveOn members can post their thoughts regarding important political issues.
Once in a while—as in any public forum—inappropriate material is posted. Recently, a few of the thousands of comments that are posted every week contained anti-Semitic language.
The comments that were posted were abhorrent. We were dismayed to see them, and removed them as soon as they came to our attention 17 days ago. [Utter bull, as shown below]
Many of the comments identified were not, in fact, made by MoveOn members. [But they received overwhelming approval from other Action Forum members as shown below.] We are working to discern whether they were made as a part of a right-wing campaign to target the organization. [This is about as believable as, "The cops planted the weed on me, man" when the speaker has two "Mary Jane" cigarettes hanging from his mouth. Maybe MoveOn.org believes the American public is sufficiently high to believe this story.]
Clearly, any attempt to tie MoveOn’s 3.2 million members to the hateful comments of a few nonmembers on an online public forum is wrong. [(1) How do you know they are nonmembers, and (2) your Action Forum participants voted overwhelming approval.]
We were pleased to see that so many MoveOn members rose to sharply criticize the hate speech that was posted – even before it was brought to our attention.” [And your moderators were very diligent in deleting those criticisms.]









This is what was online at MoveOn.org's Action Forum as of 17 September 2006
Note: the Action Forum links no longer work because the Action Forum is still "on vacation" (having been taken down for good in October 2006). It is easy to see why.
Tom Lantos a "whining, arrogant Jew"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=311900
Congressman Tom Lantos told PM Olmert of Israel that he wants to freeze the $ 230 million U.S. aid package to Lebanon. Lantos is the ranking democrat on the House Foreign Relations Comte. Lantos said, "The [Lebanese] aid package should be witheld until the Lebanese government displays responsibility". Responsibility ? Israel is guilty of war crimes in their cowardely attack on Lebanon and the whining, arrogant Jew wants Lebanon to demonstrate responsibility ! This is another example of how many Jews/Zioniosts in our Congress use the U.S. for their own greedy purposes. DUMP ISRAEL.

14 out of 17 voted to AGREE with this.
MoveOn.org-endorsed candidates [1]
Ned Lamont (D-CT)
Patrick Murphy for U.S. Congress (PA-08)
 
Diane Farrell for U.S. Congress (CT-04)
 
Robert Byrd for U.S. Senate (WV)
 
Bob Casey for U.S. Senate (PA)
 
Nick Lampson for U.S. Congress (TX-22)
 
Sherrod Brown for U.S. Senate (OH)
Francine Busby for U.S. Congress (CA-50)
Bill Nelson for U.S. Senate (FL)
[1] http://pol.moveon.org/2006/endorsed.html
Why are the Jews so Jew-y?

http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=311396
Why are the Jews so Jew-y? Norwegian novelist Jostein Gaarder breaks the ultimate taboo in an anti-Israel rant by tying the irrationality of Israeli violence to Judaism (the link is to an unofficial translation, which starts as follows):
“There is no turning back. It is time to learn a new lesson: We do no longer recognize the state of Israel. We could not recognize the South African apartheid regime, nor did we recognize the Afghan Taliban regime. Then there were many who did not recognize Saddam Hussein’s Iraq or the Serbs’ ethnic cleansing. We must now get used to the idea: The state of Israel in its current form is history.
We do not believe in the notion of God’s chosen people. We laugh at this people’s fancies and weep over its misdeeds. To act as God’s chosen people is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism. There are limits to our patience, and there are limits to our tolerance. We do not believe in divine promises as justification for occupation and apartheid. We have left the Middle Ages behind. We laugh uneasily at those who still believe that the God of flora, fauna, and galaxies has selected one people in particular as his favorite and given it funny stone tablets, burning bushes, and a license to kill.
We call child murderers ‘child murderers’ and will never accept that such have a divine or historic mandate excusing their outrages. We say but this: Shame on all apartheid, shame on ethnic cleansing, shame on every terrorist strike against civilians, be it carried out by Hamas, Hizballah, or the state of Israel!”

…The Israelis are stealing their land, and have occupied land that is not theirs for years. And they OWN Washington senators and congresspeople.

29 of 30 voted to AGREE with this
U.S. and Israel are "war criminal states"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=311762
Israel’s ‘UNINTENDED’ ??? collateral damage in Lebanon
Unintended for crisake. They bombed the whole country back to the Stone Age. It is A WAR CRIME for which Nazis were hung. If I were Bush I would not plan any European vacations.
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=9616
Bush Goes Retro to Avoid Prosecution - by Paul Craig Roberts
When I was a kid, John Wayne war movies gave us the message that America was the good guy, the white hat that fought the villain. Alas, today the U.S. and its last remaining non-coerced ally, Israel, are almost universally regarded as the bad guys over whom John Wayne would triumph. Today, the U.S. and Israel are seen throughout the world as war-criminal states.
...President Bush maintains that Israel has “a right to protect itself” by destroying Lebanon.
Bush blocked the attempt to stop Israel’s aggression and is, thereby, equally responsible for the war crimes. Indeed, a number of reports claim that Bush instigated the Israeli aggression against Lebanon.
Bush has other war crime problems. Benjamin Ferencz, a chief prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at Nuremberg, recently said that President Bush should be tried as a war criminal side-by-side with Saddam Hussein for starting aggressive wars, Hussein for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait and Bush for his 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Under the Nuremberg standard, Bush is definitely a war criminal. The U.S. Supreme Court also exposed Bush to war crimes charges under both the U.S. War Crimes Act of 1996 and the Geneva Conventions when the Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld against the Bush administration’s military tribunals and inhumane treatment of detainees.
…According to President Bush, the U.S. will lose the “war on terror” unless the U.S. succeeds in defeating “the Iraqi terrorists” by establishing “democracy in Iraq.” Of course, insurgents resisting occupation are not terrorists, and there were no insurgents or terrorists in Iraq until Bush invaded. [Michael Moore’s position, the terrorists who are murdering our troops with improvised explosive devices are “freedom fighters.”]

14 out of 15 voted to AGREE with this
"Judeo-Nazi" leaders of Israel
Talmud a "hateful scripture"

http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=301509
FIGHT ISRAELI APARTHEID TERRORISM

Massacre in Gaza http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_18657.shtml
 By Khalid Amayreh Jun 11, 2006, 14:52
 The heart-rending scenes of the Bahr al-Sudaniya massacre in Gaza on Friday, 9 June, shows the Israeli army as it really is, a reptile-Nazi-like army of thugs, hoodlums, and common criminals, not unlike the Gestapo, SS and Wehrmacht.
 Indeed, what else can be said about an army that targets with heavy artillery children on an outing along the Gaza beach?
The latest carnage is of course not the first of its kind, and it most certainly won’t be the last. Massacres, after all, have always been Israel’s modus operandi. Israel itself inaugurated its birth with “holy massacres” as Talmudic sages would tell us.
 In truth, Zionists have committed more massacres per capita than any other people on earth since Adam and Eve. In fact, one can safely say that wanton killings and massacres are piece and parcel of being Zionist.
 I understand that there are Jews who condemn the pornographic slaughter in Gaza, people like Uri Avneri and like-minded Jews. We salute those people, who are our natural partners in the quest for a just and durable peace in Palestine.
 However, it is also true that the vast bulk of Israeli Jews are enjoying the killings of Palestinian children and are congratulating each other.
 Just take a look at Jewish internet sites in Israel and abroad and see how Jewish youngsters are congratulating each other on the killings of these helpless toddlers in Gaza.
 This murderous cannibalism doesn’t come out of the blue. Today in Israel, school curricula are dominated by the Talmud, especially a specific Talmudic text called Shulhan Aruch.
 In this text, Jews are commanded to slaughter non-Jews who are viewed more or less as animals or at least lesser human beings.
  Of course, Jewish propagandists and apologists would invoke “anti-Semitism” when the truth about the racist, Nazi-like garbage Israeli boys and girls are being taught is exposed through the media.
 In fact, if any objective truth-seeker wants to find out why the Israeli army and para-military Jewish terrorists are doing what they are doing to the helpless Palestinians, which is actually nothing less than a slow-motion genocide, one has to go first to the Talmud, the unofficial constitution of Israel. This hateful scripture is Israel’s real Torah as every rabbi would admit.
  Today, more than 50% of Israeli army soldiers and high-ranking officers are graduates of Talmudic schools or Yeshivot throughout Israel.
  And these graduates go to the army, thoroughly inculcated with this venomous and Nazi-like ideology and value system that indoctrinates them in mass murder and racism and criminality.
  Well, what kind of god and religion that sanction the killing of kids playing along the beach in Gaza?
  More to the point, it is amply clear that the latest massacre was not the act of one soldier or one officer.
  This is a systematic policy of an army that has always murdered and lied about the murder, an army that is concerned more with justifying its crimes than recognizing them and stopping them.
  Isn’t Dan Hallutz, the Israeli army chief of staff who ordered the massacre, the same person who in 2002 ordered the Israeli air-force to drop a one-ton bomb on a Gaza apartment building, killing eleven children and many other civilians?
  In short, we are dealing with real Nazis, and the truth, however bitter and unpalatable, must be told.
  We know the Juedo-Nazi leaders of Israel, along with their cheerleaders in North America, would strive to spread the lie that such wanton acts of bloodshed are “misfires” or “regrettable mistakes.” The less erudite in mendacity and hasbara would probably call the slaughter “collateral damage” as the Americans often refer to their own frequent genocidal episodes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  Unfortunately, such concocted lies still deceive many ordinary people in the West, who breathe, drink and eat Jewish propaganda via their local and national Zionist-controlled media outlets.
  Luckily, there are more people who are getting to know the truth about the Nazi nature of Israel and the Nazi-like treatment Palestinians are being subjected to by the children and grandchildren of the holocaust survivors.
  What is really disgraceful, however, is the fact that Europeans, who are relatively freer from the Zionist stranglehold, especially when compared to North Americans, are effectively silent in the face of this Gestapo-like behavior.
  European condemnation, and not just verbal condemnation, is very important in this context, since Israel and her criminal leaders would interpret any lukewarm European reaction as a green line to keep up the wanton killings.
  We do hope that this latest massacre on the Gaza beach will awaken the conscience of those who still haven’t made up their minds regarding the abomination called Israel.
  The Palestinian people realize that European political leaders are reluctant to call the spade a spade because of historical reasons and because of Jewish intimidation.
  However, ordinary Europeans, including professional unions, workers unions as well as writers, intellectuals and civic leaders must speak up against Judeo-fascism or Zio-Nazism.
  After all Europe can not just atone for one holocaust by allowing Israel and the Jews to commit another holocaust against a helpless people whose only crime is their enduring determination to be free from another Nazi reign of occupation and terror.
  http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_18657.shtml
  Take Action, sign up for http://www.cnionline.org political action alerts and tell Congress to stop using your tax dollars to support Israeli apartheid terrorism. Please copy, e-mail and distribute as widely as possible.
  10 out of 13 MoveOn.org Action Forum members agree that the Talmud is a "hateful scripture" and Israel is run by "Judeo-Nazis."
"Our parents abused some of us, some were drunks, some were divorced and some had Jewish parents. We don’t have to hang on to our past."
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=310537
If you are a Jew and want respect;
    Denounce Israel’s abuse and occupation of Palestinians for the last 50 yrs and stop spreading the lies you heard on Fox Israel News.
  Condemn AIPACs manipulation of the US foreign policy.
  Read and acknowledge the validity of the “Israeli Lobby” papers.
  Until you do you’ll just sound like the Bush administration defending their reasons for going to war.
  If you just can’t do it deny that you are Jewish.

  Our parents abused some of us, some were drunks, some were divorced and some had Jewish parents. We don’t have to hang on to our past.



Jewish Congressmen more loyal to Israel than the US
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=309875

We need your help in finding a word that is less offensive.
One that describes the Jewish congressmen and Jewish owned media that has a greater allegiance to Israel than the US. And who are demonizing Israel’s neighbors and supporting Israel’s bombing and occupation.
Read "Israeli Lobby" google it.

7 of 8 voted to AGREE with this



"Jews have a long history of subverting governments for their own enrichment"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=294678
We can all see how AIPAC/Israel has taken control of America. Not to get nasty but jews have a long history of subverting governments for their own enrichment and glory to the detriment of whole societies. Many more than "6 million" have died by semetic aggression, 100's of millions even, remember the conqueror writes history. Even the roman empire feared jewish power. Over and over again, whites, particularly semites have distorted truth through their supremacist, zenophobic minds. Ariel Sharon Oct of 2001 per Kol Israel, "... Don't worry about america, we control america and the americans know it." There is a mental pathology gripping my tribe, as the native americans say, "white man have forked tongue", we must become enlightened, or we will be destroyed.
13 of 16 voted to AGREE with this



9/11 Was an Inside Job
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=313059
Marvin Bush (brother) was head of Securicom, the firm in charge of security of the WTC until 9/11. Coincidence?
Prof. Steven Jones (BYU) has found residue of explosives used in controlled demolitions in samples of steel from WTC.
The official explanation of why the towers fell is that heat from jet fuel weakened the steel and the collapse of the upper floors caused a “pancake” effect and each floor collapsed from the weight of the floors above it crashing down. I’d believe that if the melting point of steel weren’t 1,000 degrees hotter than jet fuel can burn, if most of the fuel hadn’t exploded outside the building upon impact, and if the towers didn’t fall at free-fall speed, as if there were not 47 steel columns holding the floors up in the air. [Hey— did you know that steel softens and loses considerable structural strength long before it actually melts?]
NORAD, our national air-defense system stood down and did not intercept the hi-jacked planes. Our military was conducting several war-game excersises [sic] which simulated hi-jacked airliners being flown into buildings. This gave cover for the real-world terror plot to happen, allowing the FAA to think the hi-jacked planes were part of the wargames and not take action of their own.
Flights 93 and 77 were not even scheduled to fly on 9/11. None of the terrorists were even on the passenger manifests!
Ask questions, demand answers. Soon, it will be too late to freely ask these questions.
13 of 17 voted to AGREE with this



9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=313091
I continue to believe that this is the ONLY issue that really matters, because it is the only one that transcends political affiliations. It is not an issue of debate, or opinion, or politics if it is shown that our current administration planned and executed 9/11. No one could argue that killing our own citizens in order to stay in power and promote their own ends is a reasonable political "strategy". Scholarsfor9/11Truth.org are investigating the facts, not conjecture. We do not need to whine about unvetted videos. The facts are there, waiting to be investigated. Where is the examination of the crime scene? Where is the collection of eyewitness reports, (where early witnesses at both the Pentagon and the Pennsylvania crash site reported clearly that THERE WAS NO AIRLINER!) [Tell that to Todd Beamer's family and the families of everyone else on Flight 93.] Where is the forensic evidence - what can still be found of it? Why have our leaders not been prosecuted for destroying the crime scenes, if nothing else? There is overwhelming evidence that the "identified" Al Quaida terrorists were probably not the perpetrators, since many of them have been found alive and well by the BBC. [Last we heard, they were seen in a UFO with Elvis Presley.] The FBI itself has acknowledged openly that they have no evidence to charge Osama Bin Laden! We all know the 9/11 commission was a sham - at least one of their members has said it was miserably incomplete. Fema has reported that THEY DO NOT KNOW why building 7 fell down. Doesn't anyone care to find out why one of our best skyscrapers (of which there are thousands still in use) just crumbled because of a small fire in its corner??? Hello!!!! Where is the REAL investigation? And who really produced all those animated "explanations" - which have been shown to be as accurate as the new Disney 9/11 movie ? Are we to simply believe the fanciful "conspiracy theories" our government packaged and fed us, or will we demand the truth?
12 of 14 voted to AGREE with this
World Trade Centers were blown up
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=312664
Any one who saw the collapse of the two World Trade Center towers would have to be blind not to see that they were imploded from within due to controlled demolition, especially since the third WTC building collapsed exactly the same way without being struck by any airplane. As Jesus Christ said: "There are none so blind as they who will not see". I guess us lemmings are all as blind as though we all were victims of mass hypnosis. Let us open our eyes for a change and 'see'.
11 of 15 voted to AGREE with this



A Missile Destroyed the World Trade Center
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=312418
Did Anyone Watch the AlteraVista tape Showing A Missle Hole Not An Airplane Shape into the Pentagon? And many other things from video and reporters as 9/11 was happening that it isn't what it looks like.
One thing is true that we Do know: American Citizens died as pawns. Let's get to the truth, however painful it is going to be to discover. Our nation's future depends on it.
9 of 11 voted to AGREE with this
The U.S. Government Perpetrated 9/11
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=312448
On ABC and 9/11program - MoveOn should be leading the investigation
To the extent that the impeachment of Clinton was a diversion then it could be that a lot of the people to let it happen were put in place in Clinton's administration. Hasn't anyone ever wondered why Tenet and Freeh were kept on in a George 'the decider' Bush's administration?
It took a lot of people in key positions to pull off 9/11 and it would be doubtful that they were all placed after Bush took office.
The people in place to prevent murder investigations were as necessary as the ones to let it happen.
It still seems probable that something went wrong and the operation had to be aborted and that is the reason the buildings had to be detonated and bldg 7 had to be blown. If Chicago and the west coast had been burning and the White House had been hit then martial law could easily have been declared. In their 'perfect planning' could they have overlooked the potential of ordering of all planes to be immediately grounded?
Such details as getting John O'Neil into the WTC to be eliminated in some manner took a lot of high level doings. And people seem to think that was just a coincidence.
How did Rudy Giuliani let so many of his Police and Firemen get killed and then be given 'hero' status????????
Think about those things - and many more.

This is so crazy that only 8 of 13 voted to AGREE
Another wacky conspiracy theory
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=312103
In your post you asked "What's wrong with this picture" in regard to the continuing situation in Iraq etc.
I'll tell you "Everything is wrong with the 9/11 attack from start to finish."
I know just a wee bit about national defense and had more than a few questions I shot back to Washington starting with:
Where in heck were all the civilian FAA and military radar air traffic controllers after that first plane hit the first tower? Asleep? Dead? Why did no alert go out to the aircraft/missile defense system command center?
Where in heck was the Eastern Seaboard Air Defense System duty ready aircraft, some of which are supposed to be in the air 24 hours a day on rotating shifts...JUST IN CASE a sneak attack from a surface ship, submarine, or long range bomber ocurred? Were all these people asleep at the switch too?
How long was it after the first plane hit the first WTC tower and the second plane hit the second tower...20 minutes...30 minutes????....far too long for an ALERT not to be issued and interceptor aircraft launched all up and down the eastern seaboard from Maine to Florida, that's for sure.....JUST IN CASE.....of a sneak attack.
Then what about the plane crashing into the Pentagon...in one the most highly populated and protected metropolitan areas in the world?
Where is one single tourist Polaroid pic, one tourist Kodak Brownie snapshot, one single cell of tourist or news reporter video tape that shows a low flying Boeing 757 Jet Airliner in one of the most filmed and video taped cities in the world. Were all these people asleep as well? Dumbstruck?
Why did the Pentagon parking lot camera first show just fire erupting in 2001 and nothing else, and then four years later in 2006 show a blurry streak alleged to be the airliner.
Why have there not been but few socalled "eye witnesses" come forward and why weren't they being interviewed on national TV news shows or on documentary channels like Discovery, National Geographic, The Military Channel as examples for capturing Nobel Prizes. Why didn't liberal CNN, coservative FOX or any other news network channel's hotshot investigative reporters chase all those eye witnesses down?
Why wasn't the Washington D C air/missile defense system alerted after a half hour after the fact of the first TC tower being stuck and shoot down that 4th airliner before it got within 10 miles of the Pentagon, Capitol, White House, etc. Were all these people asleep too? There are only about 30 Airforce bases within 20 minutes or less flying time from the nation's capitol city as well as about the same number of overlapping radar intercept stations.
Why was george walker bush conveniently in Florida instead of Washington "ON THAT ONE PARTICULAR DAY OUT OF THE YEAR TERRORISTS DECIDED TO ATTACK?" I have a feeling that terrorists smart enough to carry out such an attack, were smart enough to know whether the president was in town or not, even if it had not been announced publically that bush would be in Florida.
Yessir b. matthews...I have a lot of questions...and all of them are unanswered.

19 of 21 voted to AGREE with this
Watch out for JOOOZ named Silverstein!
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=309867
83. Sofia I think– Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7
…Firefighters were told to move away from the building moments before it collapsed. In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties’ estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building’s collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million!

9 of 12 voted to AGREE with this


It was Controlled Demolition, Not Terrorists
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=313119
Fascism With Two Faces
Why bang our heads against the wall trying to decide which side would best combat terrorism? Both sides are just as incompetent. Both sides worked to erect the terrorism boogie man in the first place. Both sides supported the war on terrorism. The whole issue is just another strawman to set up and knock down.
What happened on 9/11/01 was obviously the controlled demolition of the WTC buildings, especially the third building which we are led to believe was just a fluke of nature. Both the Brownshirts and the Blackshirts are silent about this.
It is all about switching from the cold war mentality between the two superpowers to a different Boogie Man to fight to the death, as the cold war Boogie Man had fizzled out.
The point is taken from "1984" by George Orwell, but he forgot to spell it out for us: Do not believe the obvious, Big Brother will tell us what is obvious.

This is so kooky that only 15 of 24 voted to AGREE



Remove Israel-Obsessed Jews from Congress
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=304961
Israel has 8,000 Palestinian prisoners, Hezbollah and Hamas has 3 Israeli prisoners.
Israel is killing civilians and their children with our missiles and has never stopped stealing Palestinian land, farms, and precious aquifers.
Removing all Israeli obsessed Jews from congress would stop a lot of killing
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12 of14 voted to AGREE with this


U.S. Deserved 9/11
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=313332
[This was, incidentally, posted on the 5th anniversary of the mass murder of 3000 innocent civilians by militant Islamic terrorists.]
 
Let their deaths be the instrument of change, not a reason to perpetuate the cycle of death.
By remembering the deaths of those who died during the attacks on the World Trade Center and Military Industrial Complex's central hub at the Pentagon, it gives us an opportunity to use their deaths as a means to create a new possible reality.
A reality that isn't based on selling weapons so the average Joe American can drive gas guzzling beasts instead of forward thinking environmentally sensitive forms of alternative transportation.
A reality that acknowledges that our pursuit of becoming the next robber baron family, is responsible for many of the unwanted "improvements" that create the perfect medium for terrorism to flourisn in third world countries.
The symbolism of the attacks on 9/11 has been completely lost on the public of America. In their pitiful underdeveloped brains, they intended the attack to be an attack on World Trade and the misuse of the disenfranchised that resulted from the WTO's coalition of the greedy.
Since the Pentagon is viewed by the world to be the legbreakers of this particular organized crime ring, they attacked the enforcers along with the headquarters of the operation.
A confused unenlightened man could see this as a way to awaken the eyes of the American public at large.

We don't have to get our elected leaders to listen to us, to have an affect on the profits of those responsible for these neverending wars. Politicians come and go, but Robber Baron families live forever.
Rather than accept anyone's version of what happened on 9/11 as fact, we should use the constant back and forth of the opinion shapers as justification for a total remake of consumerism in America.
If we don't take advantage of our power as consumers now, when they finish taking our disposable income away, our abilities to affect change will disappear.
Simply put, they won't need us to spend money anymore. Their international corporations and the emerging consumer markets in India and China will keep them flush with profits. They could literally watch us starve and not have it impact their bottom line.
Disney's decision to air and distribute talking points to schools supporting the fable called "Path to 9/11", tells me they are growing bolder.
This is a Capitalist country. George Bush himself has sanctioned boycotts and work stoppages as bonifide actions to take in Democratic Societies. But isnce he has inserted language in the New Patriot Act that specifically outlines as illegal, economic terrorism, organized boycotts can be looked at as terrorist acts.
The deaths on 9/11/01, and subsequent propaganda supporting the Bush/Bin Laden version of events, should tell us all that they don't have our best interests at heart.
We can either be cheerled into the centuries old neverending cycle of war that has plagued mankind forever, or do as our forfathers did and legislate steps to ensure it will never happen again.
The people of the world are either blessed or cursed right now. They've been cursed with the biggest bunch of mass murders the world has ever known. Whether it's George W. or Saddam Hussein, Osama or Milosovich, the world is lousy with would be mass murderers.
We've also been blessed with an opportunity to out them as the immoral death dealers they are, and have been, for centuries now.
Our question is. Are we up to the challenge?
When Bush says, "Everything's on the table" I know exactly whta he's talking about. The military industrial complex has gone too far. Papertrails have been created all over the world leading any investigation back to the true instigators of these conflicts. And the same names keep popping up over and over again.
Bush and friends lied for 2 years about the rendition flights. Then at the same time he requests legislation created to absolve himself of all sin, he admits to these illegal detentions.
Enough already. He always admits whatever he's been accused of, eventually.
Assume a survivalist posture much like the religious right wing wackos did prior to Y2K. Downsize, get outta debt, plan local vacations and reintegrate into your local political scene.
Our silence allowed Hillary and friends to be led to the right. If we are ever to salvage what's left of America we must speak our piece. Since the only thing Corporate America understands is profits, a sudden change in consumerism will tell the puppetmasters that their politicians have gone too far.
Between the emerging global warming crisis, and the growing influence on profits the foreign markets bring, our ability to affect change with our wallets is waning.
The deaths on 9/11/01 can either be looked at as reasons to perpetaute the cycle, and as such become collateral damage to the great American war machine. Or their deaths can have real meaning.
They could be viewed as the straw that broke the military industrial complex's, camels, back.
Democracy can only survive if we use every means at our disposal to defend it. In a Capitalist Liberal Democratic Republic, the quickest way to affect change is with profit loss.
George knows this, that's why he praises boycotts and work stoppages in creating Democracies in the former Soviet block nations.
He also knows that if greedy Americans adopted the same tact, he would be gone quicker than spit. So he created the term economic terrorism.
Don't boycott, change your lifestyle. Individual acts of environmental and fiscal responsibility have to happen for America to survive.
We can either do it now while we can make a difference, or do it later when the emerging markets make our boycotts quaint.
Like Condi said. Opportunities are often masked by the tragedies that create them. For example. While progressive American saw the deaths of Katrina as horrendous, bush spent his efforts lining up toadies to benefit from the emergency spending he knew he was sending their way.
The tragedy of 9/11 can neither remain a tragedy forever, or the instrument of change that broke the military industrial complex.
The only question is, are we the generation to make it happen? No one else has had them all wrapped up in a position to be held accountable before.
Like George says, "Everything's on the table".
Can we make it happen? Never give up,never surrender.

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Another Wacky Conspiracy Theory
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=313346
Too Many Questions
Reporters are supposed to be trained in "Asking Questions", but after September Eleventh, 2001, it seems they lost their ability to ask questions.
Are we "safer" today?
Why are the internationally renowned terrorist training camps allowed to operate in Pakistan?
Why did we offer India nuclear energy technology when there is a potential for them to use the waste to attack Pakistan with nuclear weapons, another country that has demonstrated the ability to produce nuclear weapons?
Why do we concentrate so much media time on Iran when they are more like five to ten years away from getting a nuclear weapon - and why have we shyed away from recognizing them and negotiating with them?
With a 50/50 chance, and an off-center strike, why did both towers pancake rather than one topple over in structural failure?
Why was there no feuselage and the wrong engine pods for the aircraft on the lawn of the Pentagon?
Why was there no identifiable human remains left at the site of the Pentagon - not even teeth?
Why - at the Pentagon - were the flames a bright yellow-orange with little smoke with only one fire engine there, when a fire of kerosine/diesel fuel burning at atmospheric temperature and pressure would be a dull orange with profuse amount of smoke, especially when being doused by a fire engine?
After the first plane crashed into the WTC and staffers (including Cheney) were husteling to the basement of the White House, why didn't Rumsfeld have someone manning the anti-missile, anti-aricraft systems on the Pentagon, the command center of our national defenses, so that his employees and building would be protected in light of an attack?
With so many security cameras on buildings, why didn't more of them - any of them? - capture clear footage of the airplane that struck the Pentagon?
If we were only hit at the WTC, would we have launched the nation into perpetual war, or would we have just blamed Bush for failing to protect the WTC?
Why have we paid so little attention to satifying the most basic necessities of life to the land we occupy - Iraq - that insurgency is a logical human reaction?
When are we going to pay attention to satifying the most basic necessities of life to the land we occupy - America - that insurgency is not a logical human reaction?
I am sorry that we have suffered the attrocity of 9/11, but am still concerned that our media and our government is not considering the whole truth!!!

7 of 7 voted to AGREE with this



Jews Deserved the Holocaust
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=309094
The Jews have 9,000 prisoners the Arabs have 3.
It’s the Jews that are trying to push the Arabs into the sea by occupying and annexing their land, bulldozing refugee camps and orchards.
The Jews are killing the Arabs on a ratio of 10 to 1.
The Palestinians live in a prison, no way in or out without passing through an abusive Jewish guard gate.
The Jews demand that the Pals. disarm prior to any negotiating of what if anything they’ll get back. That is called begging not negotiating.
Nearly 3/4 of the entire Jewish population was exterminated. If you can’t tell us why, We are stuck with logic and commonsense.
I’m saying Jews instead of Israelis because I read the Israeli newspapers, the “Israeli Lobby” papers and have seen the House vote 410-8 in support Israel while the UN typically votes 191-4 against Israel. Also the billions in aid and military equipment are conspicuous. The world court unanimously voted against Israel.
By blaming Hitler you don’t have to face the truth.
I will stop condemning Jews when they become acclimated with all people.

Stop professing to know and start reading.

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"Israelis Ashamed of their Jewish Past"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=307279
More than anything else, Lebanon is being used as a testing ground for new American weapons, never mind that children are being killed in the process!
I only hope that the rebuilding will not be entrusted to Halliburton, Bechtel and other US war profiteers.
As for linking Israel's actions with the issue of anti-semitism, that's totally out of place. The Israelis see themselves as a new race and a new nation and are rather ashamed of their Jewish past.
7 of 7 voted to AGREE with this
Israel Lobby Has Taken Over American Democracy
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=307308
19 of 21 voted to AGREE with this



Zionism = Racism
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=310256
Racism is unacceptable, and Zionism is racism.
13 of 16 voted to AGREE with this



American Jews pay the Israeli cowards to kill with missiles.
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=302690
5 of 8 voted to AGREE with this

Jews Control All The Media
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=310142
Another neo-con appeared today on C-Span to defend Bush and his spying program! I am Jewish and proud of it (despite everything) but I am sick of seeing those neo-cons posing as average joes on national television to defend Bush and his lies. Since they don't have the decency or honesty to identify themselves by saying: "But you know, I am a Zionist and may be biased" and since most Americans can't tell the difference and don't have the courage to ask, maybe they should be forced to wear an Israeli flag on the lapel of their jackets. Isn't it time to tell the American people the truth, i.e. that Jews control all the media.
8 of 8 AGREE that the Jews control all the media

Vietnam Veterans are "Mercenaries"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=311195
Mr Goody-two-shoes, I hope you didn’t volunteer for Vietnam, otherwise you are just a mercenary like the others. Did you ever wonder what the Vietnamese did to you to be killed by the millions and to have their country burned to the ground?
I wasn’t even referring to the atrocities committed in places like Abu Ghraib but to plain prostitution, the only way to survive for women and children widowed and orphaned by the US war machine. It is a fact that a prostitute in Afghanistan costs the equivalent of 25 cents.
Now, don’t tell me you never saw a prostitute during your stay in Vietnam. Anyway I would have no way to disprove your claim because these are things heroes like you don’t brag about.

11 of 13 AGREE to spit on our veterans yet again
"Christian Zionist Tribe" must be removed
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=310659
Israel would not exist without Christian Zionists. Christian Zionists are ultimately responsible for whatever Israel does, whether they realize it or not! Blaming Israel is like blaming an unattended child for causing trouble. Of course they're going to play dumb and say they're powerless over Israel! We're supposed to fall for that. The US Gov. could stomp Israel like a bug, if we had to! That's where their Christian Zionist "beliefs" mix with US laws and rational Foreign Policy. They are allowing Israel to commit autrocities, because of their beliefs. Civilized people must put and end to this State Sponsored Religion. We must remove this Christian Zionist Tribe from our government. Once people's afterlives become involved, the Material World doesn't matter anymore! And Greed will profit from the resulting Atrocities, as it always has!
9 of 12 voted to AGREE with this


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 Bob Casey for U.S. Senate (PA)
 Nick Lampson for U.S. Congress (TX-22)
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Bush Administration knew about 9/11 in advance

http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=313890
 9/11 was the most AWFUL FAILURE by any presidential administration in the history of our nation! Europe warned us for weeks before 9/11 that it was coming! Those in the Bush administration knew it was coming and even called their buddies to WARN THEM not to fly on 9/11! Why didn't they WARN US??? Then at ground zero, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY EVACUATE TOWER 2?!?!? It was STUPIDITY and INCOMPETENCE at every level! Tower 1 had already been attacked and they didn't have sense enough to suspect an attack was possible on Tower 2?!?!?!? If the administration had been even the slightest bit competent, we could have saved every soul we lost on 9/11! We must be sure this is the tenor of every discussion involving 9/11 that takes place in our media between now and November.
12 of 15 voted to AGREE with this


"Christiano-fascist White Wing extremists"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?&comment_id=309972
We all know and agree heartily with the opinions of our fellow MoveOners, and millions of other like-minded people the world over. However, it's still just preaching to the choir. How do we get the Democrats to start using a coherent strategy of fighting the BushCheney regime by really enumerating their long, long list of worldwide crime, terrorism and corruption, when they're not so great themselves? They too, have toadied to the Christiano-fascist White Wing extremists- They too, give knee-jerk carte blanche to the Ziono-fascist State of Israel (whose recent actions in Lebanon have thrown thoughtful, progressive Jews in the US and Israel into an agony of conflicting emotions). How do we get the corporate media to report more of the truth? Is there ANY news anchor who would risk his job (and his life?) to say he's mad as Hell, and isn't gonna take it anymore? We have some good weapons at hand- Jim Hightower, in the July issue of The Hightower Lowdown, has put together a most excellent, concise, statistical summary of exactly how the Bush Administration has been bad for America. We need to get the Dems to use this information, and we need to somehow get the the facts-and-figures reality of the BushCheney regime in front of those who don't get anything but corporate media news. How is this to be done? Jim Hightower suggested leaving Xeroxes around at right-wing churches, local Republican headquarters, libraries (but the people we need to convert don't read!), community bulletin boards, etc. Listing these facts in letters to the editor of as many newspapers as possible would be good. I would urge everyone to get hold of that list in The Lowdown and check it out- it's really quite enlightening to see those stats in black and white.
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Bush = Hitler
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=294329
Hitler killed many innocent people: Bush killed many innocent people.
Hitler was the sole dictator: Bush ignores the Constitution and does whatever he wants.
Hitler stopped free press: Bush controls many newspapers and wants to regulate the internet.
The German people followed Hitler because they were shaken by the tragedy of the Great Depression of the 1930s, when 1,000,000 Marks bought very little: American people followed Bush because they were shaken by the tragedy when the US was actually attacked on 9/11. Both were bad leaders who rose to power from tragedies.
Hitler tortured many: Bush tortures at Gitmo.
Hitler abolished relations with the "League of Nations": Bush abolished relations with the UN.
Hitler carried out pre-emptive strikes against Poland, England and many other countries: Bush attacked Iraq pre-emptively.
Nazi Generals tried to assassinate Hitler: US Generals tried to make Rumsfeld step down. Neither was successful.
Hitler liked to show off in front of his Nazi Army: Bush likes to show off in front of our Army.
Hitler curtailed freedoms for the German people: Bush is trying to curtail our freedoms.
GET the PICTURE??

16 of 18 voted to AGREE with this
Black soldiers should desert or mutiny
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=287544
Just say no! Ask what is in it for you or your family. Ask how will your family or love ones benefit if we win or lose in Iraq? Ask can you or your love ones gain fair employment, managerial positions or ownership in Halliburton and other industries who are beneficiaries of this illegal occupation? Then make a truthful statement to your commanding officer and the press as to how you are probably discriminated against by your superiors. I would suggest you then offer them your weapon, after realizing who your enemy maybe. Upon your return to America, ask bush how his appointing Alito a racist to the Supreme Court will improve Blacks freedom and opportunities in this country. See; http://www.outbush2005.blogspot.com
13 of 14 voted to AGREE with this
Republicans are racist and homophobic pigs
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=286903
They're racist, sexist, homophobic pigs.
If the current immigration dust up isn't about racism, then i guess expelling the chinese rail workers at the turn of the century but not the irish workers, denying women the right to vote until the 1920s, interning japanese during WW II but not the germans or italians, denying civil rights to blacks until the 1960s, and fighting tooth and nail to roll back gay and women's rights isn't about racism, sexism, and homophobia.
Why do we tolerate Republicans? They stand for NOTHING of value and decency.

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 Arab’s work in your ports, on your teeth, on your heart, in your school and your universities.
You condemn them as sand Niger’s, out to destroy America, if you think, you know better and it’s not true or possibly.
Bin ladin is no worse than Bush. Bush as a subordinate of the neo- Jews. God bless the non neo-Jews.
You , I and the Arabs are not responsible for either.
Racism is an ugly thing. I’m not black or Arab.
Personally, I don’t know a good Arab or a bad Arab and have no desire to meet one, it’s all about common sense.
If you don’t agree screw you.
I have been taking communion over and over tonight.
If you are scared, I’m glad. Rod Almighty


Rice and Powell are "House Slaves"
http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=276832
Thanks Harry, for telling it like it is. Rice and Powell ARE "house slaves". And the "Republicans ARE like the Jews who worked for Hitler". And Shrub IS "a tyrant and a terrorist". Harry, we need people like you in Congress.

12 of 15 voted to AGREE with this
 First SAY it, "zionist occupied government", Then STOP it.
Really the zionist jews have fomented the flames of religious fundamentalism here in the us and abroad; to serve their own ends; Ertz Israel. Project for a new america is exactly like the protocols of zion, in spirit. I am confounded by the white male supremacy that has driven this nation into the ground and made us the most hated nation on earth.
As a woman it astonishes me that my country's men would travel 10,000 to liberate women from guaranteed health care, childcare and employment. Sadaam supported Palestine, was secular and the country HAD a high standard of living. Iraq had the ancient knowledge of mankind in its museums and libraries, looted and suppressed by the usa and israel. Book burning, history burning, body burning, my white semetic tribe has forked tongues. That cannot be said of muslims, who don't take off their holy values when they walk out the synagogue or church door.
Islam a religion that has honored women's souls and rights since its inception. Not true of jewish and christian religion which has persecuted and OWNED women until the turn of the century and continues to assault our liberties. My myogynist ancestors are slavors, racist to the extreme, brutal barbarians and worse yet penis choppers. Stop male genital mutilation and maybe these guys won't grow up so mean (and save money on erectile drugs).
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